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	<title>Comments on: Collars and Rings</title>
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		<title>By: SirAnneal</title>
		<link>http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/04/18/collars-and-rings/comment-page-1/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>SirAnneal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting dialog here.  A nice read</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting dialog here.  A nice read</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/04/18/collars-and-rings/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know... I think my wedding ring (fingers crossed I get one one day!) will symbolize a D/s undertone too.  In fact, I&#039;m hoping to take formal solemnization of matrimony vows, so I can promise to &quot;obey and serve&quot; and he can promise to &quot;comfort/protect&quot; (I think that&#039;s what the differences in vows are).  I think it would be a really beautiful way of working my submission into a public ceremony my whole family can witness and not feel extremely discomforted by.

And, you&#039;re welcome!  I love your questions.  Welcome home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know&#8230; I think my wedding ring (fingers crossed I get one one day!) will symbolize a D/s undertone too.  In fact, I&#8217;m hoping to take formal solemnization of matrimony vows, so I can promise to &#8220;obey and serve&#8221; and he can promise to &#8220;comfort/protect&#8221; (I think that&#8217;s what the differences in vows are).  I think it would be a really beautiful way of working my submission into a public ceremony my whole family can witness and not feel extremely discomforted by.</p>
<p>And, you&#8217;re welcome!  I love your questions.  Welcome home!</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, sista.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, sista.  <img src='http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since my discussion and thoughts on symbolism led my mind into many fun places, I too would be interested in why you chose your symbol, and not him.  Huh.  Fun to think about...  Might be even more fun to know the answer!  And thanks for joining in on the discussion, I always love hearing your words, dk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since my discussion and thoughts on symbolism led my mind into many fun places, I too would be interested in why you chose your symbol, and not him.  Huh.  Fun to think about&#8230;  Might be even more fun to know the answer!  And thanks for joining in on the discussion, I always love hearing your words, dk.</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/04/18/collars-and-rings/comment-page-1/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for goodness sake.  I just like, broke the internet trying to reply to this.  Yeesh, I&#039;m so not a techie nerd...  Anyway, I was saying... I think maybe the dog bit was always there for me, always made sense, because my collar is just that - a dog collar.  It&#039;s not fancy, it&#039;s not BDSM-y, it&#039;s just a dog collar.   Plain and simple (and actually a bit complicated!) 

(I totally want a fancy one as well as this one, btw.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for goodness sake.  I just like, broke the internet trying to reply to this.  Yeesh, I&#8217;m so not a techie nerd&#8230;  Anyway, I was saying&#8230; I think maybe the dog bit was always there for me, always made sense, because my collar is just that &#8211; a dog collar.  It&#8217;s not fancy, it&#8217;s not BDSM-y, it&#8217;s just a dog collar.   Plain and simple (and actually a bit complicated!) </p>
<p>(I totally want a fancy one as well as this one, btw.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So, similarities and differences…..in your situation, mine and Sara’s……many others too. What’s important is finding what works for each of us and our partners isn’t it?&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s exactly it.  Symbols can be public or private, but they always only mean what people, personally or mutually, decide they mean.  It&#039;s fun to talk about them, though.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>So, similarities and differences…..in your situation, mine and Sara’s……many others too. What’s important is finding what works for each of us and our partners isn’t it?</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly it.  Symbols can be public or private, but they always only mean what people, personally or mutually, decide they mean.  It&#8217;s fun to talk about them, though.  <img src='http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems simple, right?  Maybe it&#039;s only a big deal when someone makes it a big deal.  I don&#039;t know.  I sat staring at that paragraph I wrote for quite some time.  It felt... Inadequate.  Like there was something else I wanted, maybe.  I figure, when I get closer to the marriage thing, I&#039;ll have to do a lot more thinking on it...  (I&#039;m attempting not to think too hard about it right now, but I can&#039;t seem to help myself!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems simple, right?  Maybe it&#8217;s only a big deal when someone makes it a big deal.  I don&#8217;t know.  I sat staring at that paragraph I wrote for quite some time.  It felt&#8230; Inadequate.  Like there was something else I wanted, maybe.  I figure, when I get closer to the marriage thing, I&#8217;ll have to do a lot more thinking on it&#8230;  (I&#8217;m attempting not to think too hard about it right now, but I can&#8217;t seem to help myself!)</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m baaack..and thank you for taking the time to answer and discuss this. It makes sense, and from the comments I can see others have similar but not exactly the same feelings. It is a symbol and they can take on a range of personal meanings. Not being a slave, I would never wear a collar, but I do think of my ring as a symbol of my commitment to my marriage. As that commitment has changed, so has the symbolic content. As an example, following his lead even if I didn&#039;t agree was not part of the original deal, now it is. The ring symbolizes our commitments, promises, is a concrete reminder. And yes, we both wear rings, although I am not sure how he views his. The dog collar analogy was interesting, in that it reminded me that when I am out and about, the ring does serve as a visual reminder to others that I am indeed attached. Thanks Chloe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m baaack..and thank you for taking the time to answer and discuss this. It makes sense, and from the comments I can see others have similar but not exactly the same feelings. It is a symbol and they can take on a range of personal meanings. Not being a slave, I would never wear a collar, but I do think of my ring as a symbol of my commitment to my marriage. As that commitment has changed, so has the symbolic content. As an example, following his lead even if I didn&#8217;t agree was not part of the original deal, now it is. The ring symbolizes our commitments, promises, is a concrete reminder. And yes, we both wear rings, although I am not sure how he views his. The dog collar analogy was interesting, in that it reminded me that when I am out and about, the ring does serve as a visual reminder to others that I am indeed attached. Thanks Chloe!</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wedding ring represents our marriage vows and my collar(s) represent the D/s side of our relationship. Both are precious to me but they are meant to be different symbols. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wedding ring represents our marriage vows and my collar(s) represent the D/s side of our relationship. Both are precious to me but they are meant to be different symbols. <img src='http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: doubleknot</title>
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		<dc:creator>doubleknot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chloe, you present things very well.  I like when you take the time to think about a topic such as collars, or the difference between sub and slave and expound on it for us.  Your take on things jives muchly with mine.  

I have a necklace that actually belonged to my mother (who passed away a few years ago).  The reason this is my collar is because very early in our relationship I&#039;d asked for some things to help me feel more connected to him as his slave.  Along with establishing my initial list of rules, M told me to find something to wear as a symbol of my enslavement to him. It was really more for me than for him.  He said he was never really very into the &quot;trappings&quot; of M/s, as he put it. Wearing the necklace (he never calls it a collar, though it does represent his ownership) at all times was included in that first list of rules.
  
The necklace is pretty weighty; something I can always feel about my neck.  It&#039;s a very solid silver rope chain.  I am not sure why he didn&#039;t give me one of his own choosing.  I may ask him one day.  

But it is not to leave my neck, except for cleaning.  He has never made me remove it either, thank god.  I think it would just about kill me if he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chloe, you present things very well.  I like when you take the time to think about a topic such as collars, or the difference between sub and slave and expound on it for us.  Your take on things jives muchly with mine.  </p>
<p>I have a necklace that actually belonged to my mother (who passed away a few years ago).  The reason this is my collar is because very early in our relationship I&#8217;d asked for some things to help me feel more connected to him as his slave.  Along with establishing my initial list of rules, M told me to find something to wear as a symbol of my enslavement to him. It was really more for me than for him.  He said he was never really very into the &#8220;trappings&#8221; of M/s, as he put it. Wearing the necklace (he never calls it a collar, though it does represent his ownership) at all times was included in that first list of rules.</p>
<p>The necklace is pretty weighty; something I can always feel about my neck.  It&#8217;s a very solid silver rope chain.  I am not sure why he didn&#8217;t give me one of his own choosing.  I may ask him one day.  </p>
<p>But it is not to leave my neck, except for cleaning.  He has never made me remove it either, thank god.  I think it would just about kill me if he did.</p>
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