Comments on: I have limits. (I think you do too.) http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:03:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dialogues On Diversity « Finding Sara http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-131 Dialogues On Diversity « Finding Sara Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:26:22 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-131 [...] Just such an exchange has occurred this week. This round of discussion started with Chloe when she posted “I Have Limits”. [...] [...] Just such an exchange has occurred this week. This round of discussion started with Chloe when she posted “I Have Limits”. [...]

]]> By: swan http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-65 swan Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:02:15 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-65 Well, I'd have referred back to those discussions with Sara, but she beat me to it... hmmmm. I tend to believe that the "limits" topic is something of a circular monologue that really seldom goes anywhere. There is always a limit somewhere -- anyone who says NO just hasn't found that edge yet. What is germane, in my view, is what happens, in this kind of dynamic, when you encounter that place? Now, THAT can be interesting. At least it is based on real stuff and not hypotheticals. Great post. swan Well, I’d have referred back to those discussions with Sara, but she beat me to it… hmmmm.
I tend to believe that the “limits” topic is something of a circular monologue that really seldom goes anywhere. There is always a limit somewhere — anyone who says NO just hasn’t found that edge yet. What is germane, in my view, is what happens, in this kind of dynamic, when you encounter that place? Now, THAT can be interesting. At least it is based on real stuff and not hypotheticals.

Great post.

swan

]]> By: Chloe http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Chloe Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:41:45 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-64 Hey Kari! Thanks for the comment, and I hope I see you around here again! ~Chloe Hey Kari! Thanks for the comment, and I hope I see you around here again!

~Chloe

]]> By: Chloe http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-62 Chloe Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:30:21 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-62 Good question, Sara. Thanks for bringing it up. If you don't mind, I'm going to answer in post-form, hopefully today. And don't worry, as long as a comment isn't as puerile as "omg, you, like, suck!" then I'm VERY willing to talk about things. :) I'm not preaching here - I'm learning by presenting ideas. As long as the intent behind discussing my ideas isn't cruel (which yours clearly isn't!) they're definitely open for debate and discussion. I'll get back to you soon, promise. And thanks again. ~Chloe Good question, Sara. Thanks for bringing it up.

If you don’t mind, I’m going to answer in post-form, hopefully today. And don’t worry, as long as a comment isn’t as puerile as “omg, you, like, suck!” then I’m VERY willing to talk about things. :)

I’m not preaching here – I’m learning by presenting ideas. As long as the intent behind discussing my ideas isn’t cruel (which yours clearly isn’t!) they’re definitely open for debate and discussion.

I’ll get back to you soon, promise. And thanks again.

~Chloe

]]> By: Kari http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Kari Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:02:11 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-61 I just found your site through others I read and wow, you defiantly write beautifully. After reading this entry gives me a lot to think about. Kari I just found your site through others I read and wow, you defiantly write beautifully. After reading this entry gives me a lot to think about.

Kari

]]> By: Sara http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Sara Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:15:59 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-59 Hi Chloe, I have a question for you. I have for some time been trying to understand why some people choose the term "slave" to describe themselves. What it connotes to them that is different than "Submissive". How can you be "owned" when at the end of the day, the power to submit (or not) is yours? Yes, your Master respects your limits, but if he did not...then you would change things. You agree that it IS in your power to do so. My connotation of slave was someone who was owned and had no say, no limits of their own, could be even killed if their owner decided to do so. The slaves of the south 100 years ago and the slaves in Roman times, etc...they were truly slaves. Are you not just in a relationship in which you are more submissive than I am in mine? So why call yourself slave then? I am not trying to challenge you here, but really just trying to understand. I had some of this discussion with swan sometime ago...and your post reminds me that my knowledge and understanding is still lacking. Thanks, Sara Hi Chloe, I have a question for you. I have for some time been trying to understand why some people choose the term “slave” to describe themselves. What it connotes to them that is different than “Submissive”. How can you be “owned” when at the end of the day, the power to submit (or not) is yours? Yes, your Master respects your limits, but if he did not…then you would change things. You agree that it IS in your power to do so. My connotation of slave was someone who was owned and had no say, no limits of their own, could be even killed if their owner decided to do so. The slaves of the south 100 years ago and the slaves in Roman times, etc…they were truly slaves. Are you not just in a relationship in which you are more submissive than I am in mine? So why call yourself slave then? I am not trying to challenge you here, but really just trying to understand. I had some of this discussion with swan sometime ago…and your post reminds me that my knowledge and understanding is still lacking. Thanks, Sara

]]> By: Chloe http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Chloe Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:18:25 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-58 <strong>kaya~</strong> OMFG, yes. The itty bitty baby shoes are practically proof of a God. I remember once, in my teenage years, having a squealing fit over a pair of VERY small pink sneakers. One of my friends was all, "<strong>*ahem* </strong>You DO realize babies with feet that small aren't even CLOSE to walking age, right? They have no need for sneakers, Chlo," AS IF that was even close to the point... <strong>*sighs*</strong> Some people are really missing out on the best stuff in life with all this "being reasonable" nonsense. ~Chloe kaya~

OMFG, yes. The itty bitty baby shoes are practically proof of a God. I remember once, in my teenage years, having a squealing fit over a pair of VERY small pink sneakers. One of my friends was all, “*ahem* You DO realize babies with feet that small aren’t even CLOSE to walking age, right? They have no need for sneakers, Chlo,” AS IF that was even close to the point…

*sighs*

Some people are really missing out on the best stuff in life with all this “being reasonable” nonsense.

~Chloe

]]> By: doubleknot http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-57 doubleknot Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:18:22 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-57 omg, have you SEEN those tiny little hiking boots for babies??? Omg, my granbaby (If I ever get one) is soooo going to have those! omg, have you SEEN those tiny little hiking boots for babies??? Omg, my granbaby (If I ever get one) is soooo going to have those!

]]> By: kaya http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-56 kaya Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:09:58 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-56 Are you fascinated by baby shoes, too? Not any size, only the size 3 and under shoes. I'm telling you, Jes's baby is going to have the best dressed feet evah! (and I agree with your post, btw. But you knew that. I think I agree with most everything you say.) Are you fascinated by baby shoes, too? Not any size, only the size 3 and under shoes. I’m telling you, Jes’s baby is going to have the best dressed feet evah!

(and I agree with your post, btw. But you knew that. I think I agree with most everything you say.)

]]> By: Chloe http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Chloe Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:33:43 +0000 http://obey.thenaturalorders.com/2009/01/24/i-have-limits-i-think-you-do-too/#comment-50 <strong>dk~</strong> Thank you! Although, I refuse to believe I've explained anything to a tee. Then I'd be out of exuses to contiune to post about them, and lord knows if I try to shut up, I'll combust. (wtf. My spellcheck is insisting combust is not a word. I'll show the little bastard the meaning of combust...) I'm going to head over to your blog asap. :D ~Chloe dk~

Thank you! Although, I refuse to believe I’ve explained anything to a tee. Then I’d be out of exuses to contiune to post about them, and lord knows if I try to shut up, I’ll combust. (wtf. My spellcheck is insisting combust is not a word. I’ll show the little bastard the meaning of combust…)

I’m going to head over to your blog asap. :D

~Chloe

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